Talk:Bulborb

Has anyone ever noticed how cute the bulborb's are? I mean look at those big o'll eyes, so please put yes or no votes in box below... Why won't anyone else anser!

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um, sure...

Only Red ones...

Hairy Bulborbs are SOOO cute, and Red Bulborbs are mildy cute.

Um.... Have you actually played Pikmin or Pikmin 2? The things will swallow your Pikmin without hesitation. They- never mind, bet this page is dead anyway...Pikdude 16:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I,m not saying them eating the pikmin is cute, i'm saying that they look cute, got it! (and yes i,m a boy)Prof. 21:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

One of my fav beasts is the Hairy Bulborb. I also think the Red Bulborb is cute. And I am a boy too. IAMAHIPO_ocolor 23:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I think hairy bulborb's are kinda squirrely.Prof. 21:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

If you ask me red bulborbs look O.k, Snow bulborbs are O.k to.But Orenge bulborbs are just ugly. The Hairy bulborbs just look like puffballs.

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Are we planning to keep the name thingy? I don't know what to do with it.--Prezintenden 10:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Might be useful to have them on those with more cryptic names, but not in its own section - maybe mentioned in the opening sentence or two. And not unless it's absolutely undeniably true: however obvious it might seem that 'orb' is relevant, it's not fact; the 'red', of course, is. Greenpickle 10:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Right, I'll remove this. It's fairly obvious.--Prezintenden 13:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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if iney 1 well tell me y u delete my glicth and yet no other freaken tell me

...Because it hasn't already been said 4 times... Greenpickle 18:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I left a message on your talk page. None of us have ever noticed this, so firstly we'd like to confirm that it's true, and once we do, it'll have to be written in a different style which doesn't use a first-person perspective, something similar to how it's written on the Shearwig page. —Jimbo Jambo

it olny happens for 2 or 1 rpwyb

Bulbmin

This article should describe how Parasiticus pikminicus interacts with the creature. ChozoBoy 22:14, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The details are unknown if it is most likely something like this: it probably has tiny ultra-sharp teeth and burrows through the creatures skin, then to control the Bulbmin, it impants itself or in this case its roots in the brain. Then discards its skin, putting its roots in the stomach for nourishment and "Control Roots" in the bones, and removing the marrow to make sure it has every aspect of the creature is under its all superior command! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA! Errrmmm... But what do I know...? I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

0_o This isn't the bulbmin artical? Oh well... whatever... I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

Yeah... I didn't mean that type of thing. Just the stuff we know: Mind-controlling Parasite, etc. and how it behaves differently as well as the extra size variations observed. Just thought it was odd that they weren't even mentioned here. ChozoBoy 22:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I know... It just makes a little bug going and taking over a bigger bugs brain sound more interesting. Errr... Well go ahead and add it... I 'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

I'm generally a better editor than writer. I was hoping that someone else might feel that they were better qualified to add a new section. ChozoBoy 13:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

...Okay... I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

Well, it's on Bulbmin. This is the Red Bulborb page; are you saying it should be added here too since it seems Red Bulborbs become Bulbmin when the parasite takes control of the body? Greenpickle 16:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I think there should be a section. Maybe a paragraph. This page doesn't even seem to reference them. Also, I wouldn't say that they "become" Bulbmin, as that is not the way that a parasite is treated. The Bulborb is a host, and the Bulbmin integrates with it. ChozoBoy 18:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you could write an entire paragraph about it. All that can really be said is that Bulbmin usually favor Bulborbs as hosts. —Jimbo Jambo

Yea, but i don't think we'll ever know. I am rocky0718 and i PWN

Like I said, behavior and size variations. ChozoBoy 19:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

How about: "The Dwarf Red Bulborb is the most favored/common form of an unknown color of parasetic Pikmin. I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

Not Dwarfs, those are a different species. These are juevenille Red Bulborbs, which aren't seen in the game, otherwise. (This kind of leads me to speculate that Bulborbs may rely on Bulbmin to survive through infancy underground, but that obviously isn't something to be stated as a fact. It would be pretty ironic, though.) ChozoBoy 20:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok I'll add it. I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

I find it extremely unlikely that having a Bulbmin is part of the normal development of young Bulborbs, since Bulbmin seem to be the only ones to actually benefit from the relationship. We already know that Bulborbs do in fact live in packs, so I don't think the Bulborbs would in any way depend on Bulbmin to organize themselves in such a way. It's true that we never see juvenile Bulborbs, but Bulborbs are supposed to be nocturnal, so it's probably likely that they hide from other predators during the day, hence why we never see them sleeping out in the open like the adults. Besides, if we read Olimar's notes on Bulbmin, it says that the parasites spend their entire lives inside Bulborbs, and I can't imagine any reason why a Bulbmin would want to leave its host when it matures.

Also, why are we assuming that Bulbmin only take over young Bulborbs? Yeah, the bigger ones are smaller than the Bulborbs we usually find around, but I think it's pretty clear by the way young Bulbmin follow them that they're fully matured adults. Most likely its growth has been stunted by the parasite for any number of reasons.

Like I said, all I that I think is really worth mentioning on the Red Bulborb article is that Bulbmin favor them as hosts. The rest is either too speculative or better suited to the Bulbmin article. —Jimbo Jambo

You don't see an advantage to the Bulbmin? No parasite or disease is considered efficient if it is detremental to its host's existance (prior to reproduction). Bulborbs don't generally cooperate when hunting, they just seem to attack their prey/predators as they see it even if they are outnumbered or have assistance, Bulborb behavior is never displayed to vary aside from Bulbmin. These young Red Bulborbs seem like they would be the first thing to be eaten, without assistance, so it appears to be at their advantage to accept the parasite's will. This is a symbiotic relationship, not a dominating one. I apologize if that was a bit controversial to be including all of the developmental facts, I was just adding what I knew. I study biology and ecology a lot, and Bulborbs are a very dynamic group for a videogame species. 204.52.215.28 20:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Blah, you edited your post as I was responding. As you pointed out, a parasitic relationship is by very definition not beneficial to the host. It's true that we never see Bulborbs hunt in packs, but remember that they are nocturnal, so most of that probably goes on behind the scenes during the night. Olimar's notes for the Empress Bulblax also say that Grub-dogs form packs in response to sudden changes in their environment. I would think that juvenile Bulborbs simply stay low during the day and hunt at night either with their parents or by themselves upon smaller animals; otherwise they would have to compete with the Dwarf Bulborbs for food. Also, I just don't really see how either creature would benefit from the Bulbmin dying when its hosts reached maturation, unless the adult body was somehow unsuitable for it, although this doesn't seem terribly likely since there aren't a lot of apparent differences between an adult Bulborb and on in its last stage of development. —Jimbo Jambo

I wonder what a Bulbmin would be like as a burrowing snarget. Or a Snargetmin with little baby Snargetmin. 0_o I'm ~CrystalLucario~ And I approve this message.

I was considering the same thing earlier, CL... Imagine more of these with other animals in the next game. It might be impractical game design, but it would be pretty neat.

About the Bulborbs, there are a number of ways that type of thing could work. And for what is helpful or detrimental about the relationship, you must remember that in nature, the only thing that is important for any species is to survive long enough to reproduce. Maybe the Pikmin becomes dormant or dies off after speading seeds, who knows? I'm not going to speculate on aspects of these creatures that I do not have any information about. I'm only commenting on what is available. ChozoBoy 23:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Olimar's notes say that they do occasionally leech off of other creatures. Guess it wasn't to far out, after all. ChozoBoy 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Indeed every life form's ultimate goal is to ensure the survival of its lineage, but the longer you live, the more offspring you can potentially have. Especially if you're a parasitic organism, you will want to reproduce more frequently than your host so you can evolve ways around any defenses they might evolve themselves. Then again, you're suggesting that Bulbmin have a symbiotic relationship with Bulborbs, in which case it Bulborbs would evolve no such defenses, and might even evolve ways to accommodate their parters better. Still though, if that were the case then it seems like Bulborbs would suffer from losing their partners upon reaching adulthood, and Bulbmin too, indirectly, because they would not be able to aide in the survival of their offspring. —Jimbo Jambo