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What the hell is that?

Hidden level. Also, best image of WW secret bugs you're likely to see. Greenpickle

Well, that actually looks pretty plain. Is it maybe a test level like the one in Super Mario Sunshine? As for the bugs, why don't we put that image in the article? To me they look like Burrownits.

Snakeboss14

Hmm, very interesting, nice find.--FREAK ~Game

Freak~ OUT!

name	codename	HP	regeneration speed	setting.ini #	attack
Wogpole	Tadpole	200	0.000000	27	0.000000
Armored Cannon Beetle Larva (stuck in ground)	Fkabuto	2000	0.000100	96	10.000000
Random Candypop Bud	RandPom	99999	0.000000	8
Burrowing Snagret	SnakeCrow	1500, 2500 in WFG	0.000000	34	10.000000
Iridescent Glint Beetle	Wealthy	1200	0.000010	10	0.000000
Greater Spotted Jellyfloat	OniKurage	4500	0.000000	72	10.000000
Iridescent Flint Beetle	Kogane	1000	0.000010	9	0.000000
Dwarf Orange Bulborb	BlueKochappy	250	0.000000	44	10.000000
Crimson Candypop Bud	RedPom	99999	0.000000	4
Breadbug hole	PanHouse	1100	0.000100	83	10.000000
Clover	Clover	1100	0.000100	47	10.000000
Bulborb Larva	Baby	5	0.000000	31	2.000000
Rubble	Stone	99999	0.000000	74	10.000000
Dandelion	Tanpopo	1100	0.000100	46	10.000000
Horsetail	Tukushi	1100	0.000100	80	10.000000
Egg	Egg	50	0.000000	37	10.000000
Fiery Bulblax	FireChappy	1400	0.000100	33	10.000000
Paper bag (flat)	Chiyogami		0.000100	89	10.000000
Cave hole plug thing	Barrel	4000
Orange Bulborb	BlueChappy	850	0.000100	42	10.000000
Margaret	Magaret	1100	0.000100	87	10.000000
Waterwraith rollers	Tyre	1800	0.000000	98	10.000000
Honeywisp	Qurione	99999	0.000000	16	0.000000
Fiddlehead	Zenmai	1100	0.000100	90	10.000000
Decorated Cannon Beetle	Rkabuto	850	0.000100	95	10.000000
Shearwig	Tobi	200	0.000100	14	20.000000
Swooping Snitchbug	Sarai	1500	0.000000	23	10.000000
Shoot	Wakame_l	1100	0.000100	52	10.000000
Puffy Blowhog	Mar	3000	0.000050	29	0.000000
Red Bulborb	Chappy	750	0.000000	2	10.000000
Bridge	Bridge	3000
Seeding Dandelion	Watage	1100	0.000100	81	10.000000
Poison hazard	GasHiba	150	0.0065000	21	0.000000
Male Sheargrub	UjiB	50	0.000000	13	10.000000
Volatile Dweevil	BombOtakara	150	0.000000	93	0.000000
Fiery Dweevil	FireOtakara	150	0.000000	59	10.000000
Watery Blowhog	Wtank	1000	0.000000	25	0.000000
Wollywog	MaroFrog	1100	0.000000	18	20.000000
Common Glowcap	HikariKinoko	1100	0.000100	48	10.000000
Snow Bulborb	YellowKochappy	150	0.000000	45	10.000000
Burgeoning Spiderwort mold	OjamaRock	25000, 12500, 6500, 3000
Spotty Bulbear	KumaChappy	1200	0.000100	35	10.000000
Pellet Posy	Pelplant	50	0.000000	0	10.000000
Ranging Bloyster	UmiMushi	1500	0.000100	71	10.000000
Scales	Downfloor
Lesser Spotted Jellyfloat	Kurage	2500	0.000000	57	10.000000
Female Sheargrub	UjiA	50	0.000000	12	0.000000
Titan Dweevil	BigTreasure	5000	0.000010	73	10.000000
Emperor Bulblax	KingChappy	1300	0.000000	53	5.000000
Beady Long Legs	Damagumo	1300	0.000010	56	10.000000
Hairy Bulborb	YellowChappy	650	0.000000	43	10.000000
Bomb rock	Bomb	4.5	0.000000	36	10.000000
Waterwraith	BlackMan	1500	0.000000	99	10.000000
Empress Bulblax	Queen	5000, 3300 in HoB	0.000010	30	10.000000
Gatling Groink (on pillar)	FminiHoudai	1200	0.000010	97	10.000000
Bumbling Snitchbug	Demon	1500	0.000000	32	10.000000
Ivory Candypop Bud	WhitePom	99999	0.000000	7
Geyser	Fountain	4000
Withering Blowhog	Hanachirashi	1800	0.000100	55	0.000000
Creeping Chrysanthemum	Hana	2500	0.000100	84	10.000000
Caustic Dweevil	WaterOtakara	150	0.000000	60	0.000000
Shoot (small)	Wakame_s	1100	0.000100	51	10.000000
Careening Dirigibug	BombSarai	1500	0.000000	58	10.000000
Man-at-Legs	Houdai	2800	0.000000	66	10.000000
Giant Breadbug	OoPanModoki	700	0.000000	40	10.000000
Cloaking Burrow-nit	Armor	300	0.000100	15	10.000000
Skitter Leaf	Sokkuri	120	0.000000	79	0.000000
Glowstem (red)	DaiodoRed	1100	0.000100	85	10.000000
Lapis Lazuli Candypop Bud	BluePom	99999	0.000000	3
Breadbug	PanModoki	1100	0.000000	38	10.000000
Nectar weed	Weed
Figwort (VoR, small)	KareOoinu_s	1100	0.000100	91	10.000000
Electric hazard	ElecHiba	150	0.0065000	22	10.000000
Mamuta	Miulin	500	0.000000	54	10.000000
Mitite	TamagoMushi	50	0.000000	68	0.000000
Doodlebug	Fart	1500	0.000010	11	0.000000
Dwarf Red Bulborb	Kochappy	200	0.000000	1	10.000000
Foxtail	Nekojarashi	1100	0.000100	88	10.000000
Anode Dweevil	ElecOtakara	150	0.000000	62	10.000000
Munge Dweevil	GasOtakara	350	0.000000	61	0.000000
Hermit Crawmad hole	JigumoHouse	1100	0.000100		10.000000
Ravenous Whiskerpillar	Imomushi	200	0.000000	65	1000.000000
Fire hazard	Hiba	150	0.0065000	20	10.000000
Golden Candypop Bud	YellowPom	99999	0.000000	5
Pileated Snagret	SnakeWhole	5000	0.000000	70	10.000000
Antenna Beetle	Fuefuki	700	0.000000	41	10.000000
Toady Bloyster	UmiMushiBlind	800		101
Raging Long Legs	BigFoot	10000	0.000100	69	10.000000
Water Dumple	Catfish	200	0.000000	26	10.000000
Armored Cannon Beetle Larva	Kabuto	850	0.000100	75	10.000000
Rock	Rock	99999	0.000000	19	10.000000
Hermit Crawmad	Jigumo	500	0.000000	63	10.000000
WW secret bugs	Ujamushi
Bulbmin	LeafChappy	300	0.000000	67	10.000000
Anode Beetle	ElecBug	500	0.000100	28	10.000000
Figwort (VoR)	KareOoinu_l	1100	0.000100	92	10.000000
Figwort (small)	Ooinu_s	1100	0.000100	49	10.000000
Glowstem (green)	DaiodoGreen	1100	0.000100	86	10.000000
Segmented Crawbster	DangoMushi	3000	0.000100	94	10.000000
Violet Candypop Bud	BlackPom	99999	0.000000	6
Gatling Groink	MiniHoudai	700	0.000010	78	10.000000
Fiery Blowhog	Tank	1000	0.000000	24	10.000000
Unmarked Spectralid	ShijimiChou	200	0.000000	77	10.000000
Dwarf Bulbear	KumaKochappy	500	0.000000	76	10.000000
Yellow Wollywog	Frog	800	0.000000	17	10.000000
Candypop Bud	Pom	99999	0.000000	82	0.000000
Figwort	Ooinu_l	1100	0.000100	50	10.000000

Tables: now produced automatically using a program I wrote. Greenpickle

Mmmm, that's interesting. Oni is the japanese name for a demon, isn't it? Because it's in the codename of the big Jellyfloat.

Snakeboss14

Going ahead and posting what I've written down so far about cave info:

Cave Info

# CaveInfo

{c000} - The number of sublevels in the cave.

# FloorInfo

{f000} - Sublevel number (minus 1)
{f001} - Same as f000
{f002} - ?Amount of objects in TekiInfo (excluding plants)?
{f003} - Amount of treasures in ItemInfo (ItemInfo does not include treasures inside enemies)
{f004} - The amount of gates
{f014}
{f005} - The number of rooms
{f006}
{f007} - If a geyser is found on that sublevel ("1" if so, "0" otherwise)
{f008} - Points to a file in \user\Mukki\mapunits\units\ (Possible rooms, etc.)
{f009} - Points to a file in \user\Abe\cave\ (Seems to be the lighting data?)
{f00A} - Points to a file in \user\Kando\map\vrbox\ (The background environment used)
{f010} - 1 if the exit is blocked, 0 if it is not
{f011} - Room type (5 = Indoors, 4 = Outside, 3 = Tile, etc.)
{f012} - 0 for normal sublevels, 1 for boss sublevels, 2 for rest sublevels
{f013}
{f015} - Referred to as "version"; this is always 1
{f016} - Waterwraith timer
{f017}


{f013} - SH2, SH3, GK1, GK2, GK3, GK4, GK5, GK6, HoH1, DD1 and DD2 are all 1, everything else is 0. These are 
all of the indoor/outdoor environment floors, with the bizarre exception of SH3. :\
{f017} - 0 for every sublevel in HoB, SH, CoS, GK, SR, SCa, DD. This doesn't exist at all for every sublevel 
in EC, SCo, FC, WFG, BK, CoC, HoH.

Miles. 22:18, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I've found enemy and Pikmin attack strength; for enemies it's {fp24}. I don't know of an easy way to add it to the table, so I'll leave that up to Greenpickle. >_> Anyway, the large majority of enemies have 10 attack; Bulborb Larva have 2, Emperor Bulblax has 5 (?), Shearwigs and normal Wollywogs have 20, and Ravenous Whiskerpillars have 1000 (!!!). Anything with an attack that can't hurt you has an attack of 0, obviously. Based on this, the Captains normally have 50 health.

For Pikmin, I don't know which value applies to which color, but three of them are 10, one is 15, and one is 20. It's not hard to guess what applies where. (I realized while typing this that one type is left out (due to Bulbmin), but I'm not sure where that is.) More interestingly is a value of 35 with the comment "# Wave Attac UŒ‚”ÍˆÍ", which I believe may be the strength of Purple's stun damage. It makes sense, from what I've seen playing through the game in the past. - Miles. 03:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you think it's fp24, but it makes no sense. Bulborbs, for example, have two different-damage attacks, don't they? And where did you find the Pikmin values? Greenpickle

I found Pikmin values in \user\Abe\piki\pikiParms.txt. I was looking through and saw this:

{p004} 4 10.000000 # Â UŒ‚—Í

{p012} 4 15.000000 # Ô UŒ‚—Í

{p013} 4 10.000000 # ‰© UŒ‚—Í

{P003} 4 20.000000 # •@UŒ‚—Í

{P004} 4 10.000000 # ”’@UŒ‚—Í

These 1. Are all in a row, 2. Coincide with what I believed their attack stat to be, and 3. (the important one) All have "UŒ‚—Í" as part of their comment. I then looked at the enemy data, and {fp24} had the same comment, and that turned out to be enemies's attack stat, so...

As for knowing that it's the enemies's attack stat, I personally tested every enemy that has an attack other than 10 or 0, and they all matched up. I'm assuming that attacks that are used to shake off Pikmin don't use the attack stat. Miles. 15:46, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Woah! Miles talked! I'm ~Lonely

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How can a ravenous whiskerpillar have 1000 attack and an emperor bulblax 5?

Snakeboss14

Because the Rav never attacks, so its attack does not matter I'm ~Lonely

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I think that's how they eat Burgeoning Spiderwort berries so quickly when loads of Pikmin take ages to knock them off. Also, Miles tested EB attack in-game, and it is actually half that of most other enemies' attacks.

By the way, we now know what most of the other variables (there are at least 20 for every enemy, many more for some) mean. Lots of stuff like vision radius, territory radius... All the cave stuff is pretty complicated, since every sublevel links to a 'unit', which contains various rooms, which have the spawn points for various things and the models and everything. There are things like the settings for a day's time: it starts at a virtual 7am, ends at 7pm, 24h = 1560s = 26min, and various times are defined corresponding to events, mostly for changes in the lighting, I think. Greenpickle

Whoa! That sounds like... ugh! Snakeboss14

See, if we could get all of this information in Info Boxes, this Wiki would be even better. I'm ~Lonely

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GUYS! I was looking at the codenames of the Bulborbs! Look:

Red Bulborb is "Chappy"

Orange Bulborb is "BlueChappy"

Hairy Bulborb is "YellowChappy"

Spotty Bulbear is "KumaChappy"

This makes me think about a lot. First of all, YellowChappy and BlueChappy. YELLOW AND BLUE BULBORBS were planned to be in Pikmin 2 but were replaced! The Beta Bulborbs article says Yellow was Orange and Blue was Hairy, but it's the other way around! 67.165.116.102

Oh, yeah, we worked that out but never fixed the article, apparently. Greenpickle